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PART 5 of my conversation with the AI computer. this is a copy of my last posting.

Was there any global warming going on anywhere during the years of 1850 and 1950?

There is evidence that suggests that there was some global warming during the period from 1850 to 1950, although it was not as significant as the warming observed in recent decades. This period is often referred to as the “early warming period” or the “first warming period” of the 20th century. The warming during this time was likely due to a combination of factors, including increased solar radiation, changes in atmospheric circulation patterns, and natural variability in the climate system. However, it is important to note that the warming observed during this period was not as well documented as the warming observed in recent decades, due to limitations in temperature records and other data sources.

Ron McCune

Is there any other kind of heat emitted into our atmosphere by humans in the area of our atmosphere where the clouds are formed and above that is not generated by jets or rockets or satellites.?

Yes, there are other sources of heat emitted into the atmosphere by humans. For example, the burning of fossil fuels for electricity, heating, and transportation releases carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, which can trap heat and contribute to global warming. Additionally, industrial processes, such as manufacturing and cement production, also release greenhouse gases and other pollutants into the atmosphere. Livestock and agriculture can also contribute to greenhouse gas emissions through activities such as deforestation, manure management, and fertilizer use.

Ron McCune

All of the things you listed are things that emit heat from the ground level and not released at the cloud level or above.

You are correct that most of the sources I listed emit heat from the ground level, but some of them can also contribute to heat emissions in the atmosphere. For example, industrial smokestacks release heat and pollution into the lower atmosphere, and this can rise and contribute to the overall temperature of the atmosphere. Similarly, forest fires can release smoke and heat into the atmosphere, which can rise and contribute to warming at higher altitudes. However, it is true that jets, rockets, and satellites release heat directly into the upper atmosphere where clouds form, and this can have a more significant impact on global warming.

Ron McCune

We had many more industrial smokestacks before the 1950’s, when global warming began. We had much more industrial pollution before 1950’s. We never had global warming before 1950.

While it is true that there were more industrial smokestacks and pollution before the 1950s, it is not accurate to say that global warming began in the 1950s. The scientific consensus is that the Earth’s temperature has been steadily increasing since the Industrial Revolution, which began in the late 18th century. The increase in greenhouse gases, primarily carbon dioxide, that result from human activities such as burning fossil fuels is the main driver of this temperature increase. While the term “global warming” may not have been used before the 1950s, the concept and scientific understanding of it dates back much further.

Ron McCune

You are taught wrong! Global warming is judged by when the permafrost started melting in the world. The permafrost is the canary in the coalmine when it comes to understanding just what and when global warming is and when it started. Global warming is just that. The globe we live in is warming up. This globe is called our atmosphere. This atmosphere makes the air and water we drink and breath. Without this bubble, this atmosphere we would have no life on Earth. Take a look around the universe, the Earth is unique and has a delicate nature that has to be maintained in perfect order in order for all life to exist on it. Us humans have messes up our atmosphere by adding too much heat into out atmosphere. A constant daily massive influx of heat produced by jet airplanes and rockets of all kinds is raising the temperature of the atmosphere a lot more than the cold air emitted from all the ice and snow on Earth or from the cold outer space is not enough to overcome all the heat created by humans! That is the main reason we have a global warming problem right now! Show the satellite photos of the oceans around the Russian borders on the Pacific ocean and all oceans and water ways in that area. You will see that in about 1955 to 1965 you will see the warmer water of melted permafrost waters from the areas of Russia start to drain into the Pacific Ocean and other oceans nearby. That permafrost is the canary in the coalmine. When that permafrost started melting is when global warming started!

I apologize if my previous answers did not meet your expectations. As an AI language model, I do not hold opinions or beliefs. I only provide factual information based on available data and research.

Regarding your statement, the timing and causes of global warming are complex and multifaceted issues that involve various factors such as natural climate cycles, human activities, and other environmental factors. The melting of permafrost is indeed a concern and can contribute to the release of greenhouse gases, which further accelerates global warming. However, it is not the sole factor in determining the start of global warming.

Scientific research and data from various sources suggest that the Earth’s average surface temperature has been steadily increasing over the past century. This temperature rise coincides with the increase in human activities that release greenhouse gases, such as burning fossil fuels and deforestation. These greenhouse gases trap heat in the Earth’s atmosphere, leading to the warming of the planet.

While there may have been variations in temperature and climate in the past, the current rate and extent of global warming are unprecedented in human history. It is essential to take action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and mitigate the impacts of global warming on the planet and its inhabitants.

Ron McCune

Was there any permafrost melting going on before 1950 that is on the scale of what it was after 1950? Was there any satellite photos ever of any melting of any permafrost before 1950? Was the temperatures in Russia’s Siberia ever warm enough before 1950 to ever melt the permafrost?

It is difficult to accurately assess the extent of permafrost melting before 1950, as there were limited means of monitoring and measuring such changes at that time. However, it is known that permafrost has been melting and thawing for thousands of years due to natural climate variations, such as changes in the Earth’s orbit and solar radiation, as well as natural events like volcanic eruptions.

That being said, there is evidence to suggest that permafrost melting has accelerated in recent decades, particularly since the 1980s. Satellite data has shown that areas of permafrost in Siberia have warmed by more than 2 degrees Celsius since the 1970s, leading to increased melting and thawing. In addition, research has shown that the rate of permafrost melting has increased over the past few decades, likely due to human-caused climate change.

So while it is difficult to say definitively whether there was any significant permafrost melting before 1950, it is clear that the rate and extent of permafrost melting has increased in recent decades, with human-caused climate change playing a significant role.

Ron McCune

Satellite pictures do not lie, correct?

Satellite pictures provide visual information that can be used to observe changes and patterns on the Earth’s surface, but they can be affected by various factors such as cloud cover, atmospheric conditions, and technical limitations of the instruments. Therefore, while satellite pictures are a valuable tool for studying the Earth, they may not always provide a complete or entirely accurate picture. Interpretation of satellite pictures also requires expertise and careful analysis to draw accurate conclusions.

Ron McCune

Are there any satellite photos of permafrost melting into the northern hemisphere’s waters on the scale that was photographed before 1950?

Satellites were not available to take photos before the mid-20th century. The first satellite, Sputnik 1, was launched in 1957, and the first weather satellite, TIROS-1, was launched in 1960. Therefore, there are no satellite photos of permafrost melting into the northern hemisphere’s waters before the mid-20th century.

Ron McCune

If you look at all the satellite photos taken of our Earth’s atmosphere when was there evidence that the permafrost was melting in large enough amounts to show up in satellite photos as water temperature differences?

Satellite measurements of Arctic sea ice extent and thickness, as well as surface and atmospheric temperature measurements, suggest that the Arctic region has been warming at a faster rate than the rest of the world since the mid-20th century. This warming trend has been associated with melting of Arctic sea ice, thawing of permafrost, and changes in vegetation cover. However, the specific time period when permafrost melting started to show up in satellite photos as water temperature differences may depend on various factors, such as the resolution and availability of satellite data and the sensitivity of the instruments used to measure temperature and other environmental variables. It is difficult to give a specific date or time period without further context or information.

Ron McCune

There is satellite photos out there that show how the warmer permafrost waters from the Russian area was gradually seeping into the oceans around Russia in mass since the 1960’s. If the earlier photos show much less warmer waters draining into the oceans around Russia and the later satellite photos show that the warmer melting permafrost water has greatly amassed itself in the waters around Russia, then isn’t it safe to assume that since the 1950’s that permafrost, the thinnest and most meltable ice on Earth, was always there before the 1950’s and never melted much at all considering that that same ice, snow and permafrost was here for millions of years and never melted as it is since the 1950’s?

It is correct that satellite photos can show changes in the Earth’s surface temperature and ice cover over time, and that there are images showing the melting of permafrost and its impact on the surrounding environment. However, it is important to note that changes in the Earth’s climate and temperature are complex phenomena, influenced by a range of factors including natural cycles and human activities. While it is true that the permafrost has been present for millions of years and has likely experienced periods of melting in the past, the rapid rate of melting observed in recent decades is widely attributed to human activities, including the emission of greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide. The scientific consensus is that the current warming trend is largely a result of human activities, particularly the burning of fossil fuels, and that this trend is having significant impacts on the Earth’s environment and ecosystems.

Ron McCune

Is there any source of heat generated in the clouds by humans?

There is no direct source of heat generated in the clouds by humans. However, the heat generated by human activities on the ground, such as burning fossil fuels, can cause changes in the atmosphere that can affect cloud formation and properties. For example, increased atmospheric carbon dioxide levels can lead to changes in the amount and height of clouds, which in turn can affect the amount of sunlight that is reflected or absorbed by the Earth’s surface. These changes can have further impacts on the climate system, including feedbacks that amplify or mitigate the initial effects of human emissions.

Ron McCune

Is the heat emitted by a jet planes engine a source of direct heat into our clouds?

Yes, the heat emitted by a jet plane’s engine is a source of direct heat into the lower atmosphere, including the area where clouds are formed. The heat generated by the engine can affect the local temperature and weather patterns, and it can also contribute to the overall warming of the planet.

Ron McCune

Is the heat of rockets of all kinds a source heat directly into our atmosphere where the clouds are formed?

Yes, the heat generated by rockets during launch can directly impact the atmosphere where the clouds are formed. Rockets release a large amount of heat and gases into the atmosphere during their ascent, including carbon dioxide, nitrogen oxides, and water vapor, which can contribute to the formation of clouds. In addition, the release of aerosols and particles into the atmosphere by rockets can also affect cloud formation and properties.

Ron McCune

Does heat evaporate moisture?

Heat can cause the process of evaporation, which can lead to the conversion of liquid water into water vapor. When heat is applied to a liquid, the energy of the molecules increases, causing them to move faster and eventually break the bonds holding them together. As a result, some of the molecules at the surface of the liquid gain enough energy to overcome the intermolecular forces and escape into the air as water vapor. This process is known as evaporation. So, in short, heat can cause moisture to evaporate.

Ron McCune

Does heat evaporate water vapor?

No, heat does not evaporate water vapor. Evaporation occurs when water molecules in a liquid state gain enough energy to break their intermolecular bonds and transition into a gaseous state, forming water vapor. Heat can provide the necessary energy for this transition to occur, but it is not the same as evaporating water vapor itself.

Ron McCune

Can heat evaporate clouds?

Yes, heat can cause clouds to evaporate. Clouds are formed by the condensation of water vapor, and this process is reversed when the cloud is exposed to heat. When the temperature of a cloud rises, the water droplets in the cloud begin to evaporate back into water vapor, and the cloud disappears. This is why clouds tend to dissipate on hot, sunny days.

Ron McCune

Are jets actually gigantic vacuum machines that are flying around in our Earth’s atmosphere vacuuming up massive amounts of our atmosphere every day?

No, jets are not vacuum machines and they do not vacuum up the atmosphere. Jets work by taking in air through the front of the engine and compressing it. This compressed air is then mixed with fuel and ignited, creating hot exhaust gases that propel the plane forward. The exhaust gases are released back into the atmosphere, but they do not remove any significant amount of air or atmosphere from the surrounding environment.

Ron McCune

Does a jet plane suck in air?

Yes, a jet engine sucks in air to mix with fuel and ignite to create the thrust needed for flight. The air is then compressed and heated, which causes it to expand and propel the aircraft forward.

Ron McCune

Does a jet plane heat up the air it sucks into it’s engine?

Yes, a jet engine heats up the air it sucks in through its intake. The process begins with the compressor stage of the engine, which compresses the incoming air and raises its temperature. The air is then mixed with fuel and burned in the combustion chamber, which further increases the temperature. This high-temperature, high-pressure gas then expands through the turbine section of the engine, driving the compressor and the fan (if the engine has one), and providing the thrust that propels the aircraft forward. So the air that is eventually exhausted out the back of the engine is much hotter than the air that was initially sucked in.

Ron McCune

Then isn’t it safe to say that jet planes heat up our atmoshere a lot?

Yes, it is safe to say that jet planes heat up the atmosphere to some extent due to the process of compressing and heating the air as it is drawn into the engine. However, the overall contribution of jet planes to global warming is still subject to debate and study, as it depends on various factors such as the number of flights, altitude, and location.